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From: clrclady
Date: Fri Aug 14 19:55:57 EDT 2009 Subject: Request

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james: In prayer for you Cheryl (8/22/09)
clrclady: Thanks (8/25/09)
clrclady: Thanks (8/25/09)
Karen: Paycheck stress (8/26/09)
rodhugen: old guy advice (8/28/09)
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rodhugen: old guy advice (8/28/09)
Karen: Paycheck stress (8/26/09)
clrclady: Thanks (8/25/09)
clrclady: Thanks (8/25/09)
james: In prayer for you Cheryl (8/22/09)
So if you have seen or read the news you know that the State Budget is still a mess. Please pray. They are now talking about giving "I owe yous" instead of paychecks this next pay period. That will just be a mess for a ton of people including myself. They did this in California for a lot of things. The legislatures and Governor are still disagreeing over taxes so that is the big hold up.

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From: james
Date: Sat Aug 22 16:27:49 EDT 2009 Subject: In prayer for you Cheryl

Hi Cheryl ... I'm saddened to hear the state budget is causing you this burden. I pray that it is lifted off from you soon.

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From: clrclady
Date: Tue Aug 25 13:48:38 EDT 2009 Subject: Thanks

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From: clrclady
Date: Tue Aug 25 13:50:32 EDT 2009 Subject: Thanks

Thanks for praying. I am not definate but pretty sure we will get paychecks on Thursday. After I blogged, it was amazing I really did not worry about this much at all which is totally unlike me. God has provided for me in such amazing ways that I know He will take care of me. Thanks for all the prayers.

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From: Karen
Date: Wed Aug 26 19:37:37 EDT 2009 Subject: Paycheck stress

I have been in a similar boat as you and am having to discipline myself daily with my attitude about that!! My dad pointed out to me last night that during the Depression, his grandfather, then a teacher, was paid in "scrip" (IOU from the State of Wisconsin) which was actually honored at his bank. So an IOU sounds bad, but maybe isn't even as horrible as you (we) might think.

I have been talking to some older folks about the situation, folks like my dad and like the Hugens who have experienced financial highs and lows, and the pattern seems to be that people have confidence in our (=your and my) ability to make do with whatever happens, somehow. Still, as Emily Mc reminded me the other day, ambiguity can make anyone stressed out.

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From: rodhugen
Date: Fri Aug 28 10:42:02 EDT 2009 Subject: old guy advice

I'm not so sure I have confidence in my ability to make it through tough times. I do know that God is faithful and good and provides what we need. What we need, of course, is not the same as what we want. When Karen and Jeremy were visiting last week, Kathy promised them they could occupy our guest room/office if they should both lose their paychecks and have nowhere else to turn. Kathy said we would also take in their cats, provided they get along with Blaise and Soren. :)

Of course, the reality is, much as we love Jeremy and Karen, we don't really want them living with us any more than they want to live with us. It would be crowded and uncomfortable in our small home. But if the recession deepens and becomes a depression, we would have to make do. The joy of being followers of Jesus is that we will all starve together. That sounds funny, but what I mean is that we can share what we have to help each other. Those who have much will not have too much, and those who have little will not have too little. We are called to look not only to our own needs, but also to the needs of others. So unless as a collective we all lose our jobs and homes and the ability to acquire food, no one in the community should be hungry or living without a roof over their head unless it is by their own continual choosing.

We tend to fear the unknown. I have been and am wealthy by most standards. I have also lived on bread and beans for long periods of time. After my Dad died, our family struggled just to survive. Living through that built an intense bond among us siblings and our church community that exists to this day. Those of you who attended our banquet in Phoenix got to meet some of the lovely people who God used to help supply our needs. God saw us through. We did not die. We did not become homeless. We always ate. Bags of groceries appeared on our doorstep. A kindhearted man who ran a drug and alcohol program brought us 'out of date' food he collected from grocery stores. I would not want to have to live on what we ate then, but we ate. God met our needs, not our wants. Mostly because our wants are insatiable. Our needs are measurable. Please be assured that God will see us through whatever comes. And he will use us as his agents if we are generous and committed to his ways.

King David said in Psalms 37:25-26
I was young and now I am old,
yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken
or their children begging bread.
26 They are always generous and lend freely;
their children will be blessed. NIV

It doesn't mean it can't happen, I suppose, but it gives me much comfort to have seen in my own life what David saw in his.

Trust in Jehovah Jirah, God the Provider. Provider is one of his great names.

Rod

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