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From: andrea
Date: Sat Feb 28 11:56:35 EST 2009 Subject: this journey and some decisions

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adriennelynne: joining you (2/28/09)
rodhugen: heartfelt thanks (2/28/09)
kelsea: No Subject (3/1/09)
andrea: thanks Kelsea (3/1/09)
kimc: This got me thinking. . . (3/2/09)
clrclady: Thank you all (3/4/09)
andrea: update (3/6/09)
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kelsea: No Subject (3/1/09)
rodhugen: heartfelt thanks (2/28/09)
adriennelynne: joining you (2/28/09)
Hi Villagers and other supportive people (i.e. you Michiganians). Ryan and I have been discussing what God is trying to do in our lives. He brought us back to this place again where medical issues are interfering with how my body works and for however long (or forever) with becoming pregnant and bearing a biological child. We are really unclear what the purpose is of this part of the journey. Originally, we were going to start looking for our next family member through adoption in January. The current medical situation make pregnancy seem like a long shot. I say this because the cyst I have is very large and developed after only 4 months post surgery.

So, we have some decisions to make...

1) We need to transfer our foster care license to a new agency next month due to a new decision by the agency in the last few months (I work there by contract so can't be licensed there for fc). We have decided that we are going to do this.

2) Is it time to move forward for a child who is need of a fost/adopt situation? This is a child who is more than likely going to need adoption, but is still in need of foster care for a # of more months until they are legally free to adopt.
OR
3) Do we still sit and wait and grieve the biological child? Is there something else God is trying to teach us about Himself?

Ryan and I talked through this one last night. We saw the benefit of sitting in this 3 years ago as we went through infertility the first time. But is there a purpose in it the 2nd time? Not to say that we aren't grieving this. Every time I sit on a medical table and hear the bad news that I either have a cyst or an ectopic pregnancy, or an ultrasound tech say 'oh, darn, this (adhesion and general appearance of the organs in my abdomen) is worse looking than last time', or the ultrasound dr look at me with sympathy that I am back there again so soon, we have to grieve. Grieving last time and this time around taught me a few things...

a)I won't die if I grieve it (i.e. fall into a deep pit that I can never crawl out of).

b)Grief is intertwined with the joy as part of our parenting story with Ellie and our future children. There are times when I am experiencing such joy of being her mom, the twinge of pain comes up grieving that I didn't get to experience her as part of my body (and she will have grieving to do from this too). I experience grief when well-intentioned friends and family ask 'where is her mom', I have to smile and gently say 'her bio-mom is...' because I know her 'mom' is standing in my shoes but the difference in words doesn't seem to mean anything to the person that hasn't experienced adoption. And when that grief becomes apparent, I can give it the space it needs without falling apart and not loving my little girl or becoming absent as her mom b/c it is overwhelming.

c) That grief is a reminder that we live in a fallen world. God has turned our sins into wonderful things such as adoption, but this isn't how things were meant to be in the beginning. There wasn't meant to be infertility, there wasn't meant to be a man and woman who bear a child they will not raise, it is not meant for moms and dads to be so fearful or wounded that they try to kill their children or otherwise abuse their children. But Romans 8:28.

d)And God taught me the really big picture. He does use everything whether we know how, why, when, etc. His ways are good. That became really evident through this last surgery and I don't question that even though the outcome of the surgery wasn't what I thought it was (at least not yet).

We are really looking at whether to stand still and wait more OR move forward now in the hopes in the hopes to adopt. Will you join us in prayer in these decisions?

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From: adriennelynne
Date: Sat Feb 28 14:17:05 EST 2009 Subject: joining you

Andrea, what a beautiful post. And thanks for including us. :) I am so encouraged by how you are grasping on to the only One who can offer you peace and hope. Jesus really does love and adore you both and He does want good things for you.... even though this time is very painful. David and I have been praying for you of late and want you to know that we are here for you and rooting for good things to happen!
We love you both dearly and are joining you in prayer that God would reveal to you what direction you should go. I guess I have an opinion about what I think you should do.... does that mean it's what God thinks? I have no idea. But you can always ask me if you want. :)
Anyway, I hope you can feel our arms reaching across the United States and wrapping around your broken bodies as we lift you up in prayer to Jesus.

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From: rodhugen
Date: Sat Feb 28 16:11:31 EST 2009 Subject: heartfelt thanks

Andrea, this is a beautiful post. I am very slowly learning to love the lessons that grief and pain teach us and the ways they call us to submission and dependence on the One who knows us best and who calls us to trust that his idea of what is good is better than what ever we figure is best. It is a constant battle and I lose more than I win. It is so very hard to sit in our longings while submitting ourselves to his will, especially when we have to make actual in the moment decisions. I pray the loving Spirit of our God will gently call you to the right choices and that you will revel in God's goodness in this life and the next. Thanks for encouraging me to trust our King by what you wrote.

Rod

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From: kelsea
Date: Sat Feb 28 21:07:04 EST 2009 Subject:

Andrea, thanks so much for sharing your struggles. Your thoughts on the issue of adoption vs. bio-parenting and whether to keep waiting for the thing you want so much when it seems less and less likely, are very similar to mine regarding my paralysis. I have kept hoping that God would heal my body such that I can walk again, but in a few days it officially will be six months since my accident. Most studies show that if a return of ability is ever going to happen, it will begin within a six-month time frame. Does this mean God isn't going to "fix" my body, that what I want so much is never going to happen? What does that mean about God's relationship to me, his response to my deepest desires? I don't know the answers to these questions, but I am comforted to know that I am not the only one that's asking them.

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From: andrea
Date: Sun Mar 1 00:20:27 EST 2009 Subject: thanks Kelsea

Thanks Kelsea for letting me know that we are in like-mind and connected in the kingdom, no matter what has caused the struggle. I will continue to pray for your conversations with God also!

Thanks everyone else for posting as well. The response of love helps.

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From: kimc
Date: Mon Mar 2 15:38:18 EST 2009 Subject: This got me thinking. . .

Hey Andrea,

Thanks so much for sharing where you're at. I see such a big movement in the last few years of you choosing to believe God's goodness even when circumstances don't seem to align with that belief.

When I was reading I was struck with how clear you are on what it means to experience this grief. I believe you understand this kind of pain in a unique way. Also, I wondered why God gave me biological children and why he lets me have some of the things I really desire and it seems He purposely blocks other things. In those places I battle Him, cry out to Him and am challenged to trust Him.

Thanks Kelsea, too, for posting. These shared stories are such a good reminder of what it is to truly live out our humanity in an authentic way. And, I feel less alone too.

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From: clrclady
Date: Tue Mar 3 22:32:41 EST 2009 Subject: Thank you all

Thank you all for sharing. I am going to post another blog similar on trust and waiting and I can relate with the questions. I love your hearts Andrea and Kelsea and pray that God will meet you both and wrap His arms around you.

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From: andrea
Date: Fri Mar 6 12:08:15 EST 2009 Subject: update

So, we have a meeting with a worker from AZ Baptist Children's Services Monday. This is the same agency that David and Adrienne were with. We have told them that we are open to respite until we are matched with a fost/adopt kiddo. We are beginning to look at potential kiddos not knowing if it is too early to do so b/c we need to have ABC present us for the kids (not our current agency) and we may not be with ABC before the deadline for submitting our home studies for the kids. There are 3 potential kiddos we are praying on and all would be within our age range that we are ok with (i.e. younger than Ellie). In fact, all 3 are 7 mo and younger. There are potentially 20-25 home studies submitted for each kiddo available for fost/adopt who is under 6 mo old. So, please be in prayer with us as we are starting to move forward, that God will match us with a kiddo that he chooses, however long that takes. Thanks!

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