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From: andrea
Date: Mon Apr 24 14:28:19 MST 2006 Subject: Havasupai anyone?

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clrclady: Yeah (4/24/06)
andrea: more info (4/24/06)
russ: Website fixed (4/26/06)
Karen: Count me in (maybe?) (4/26/06)
SPark: Yes Please (4/27/06)
ryan: bucket o' cold water (5/3/06)
Karen: Good points, (Old)Ryan (5/3/06)
andrea: what about night time temps? (5/3/06)
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andrea: what about night time temps? (5/3/06)
Karen: Good points, (Old)Ryan (5/3/06)
ryan: bucket o' cold water (5/3/06)
SPark: Yes Please (4/27/06)
Karen: Count me in (maybe?) (4/26/06)
russ: Website fixed (4/26/06)
andrea: more info (4/24/06)
clrclady: Yeah (4/24/06)
We are thinking of taking a trip up north in AZ and hiking down Havasupai in June or July by the full moon at midnight (approximately, nearest weekend to the full moon)...anyone game?

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From: clrclady
Date: Mon Apr 24 16:09:26 MST 2006 Subject: Yeah

Hey, I am game, I do not know if I can get off all the time, but I would love to do it. How long you think the trip will last?

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From: andrea
Date: Mon Apr 24 18:42:07 MST 2006 Subject: more info

We would probably plan on making a long weekend of it...maybe driving up after work on Thursday, hiking down at midnight. That would be my vote, but we'll all have to talk more about this.

BTW, I had posted pics in my first blog but the upload didn't work. Russ, when you have a moment when you're not busy (ha!), can you help my blog out? Thanks!

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From: russ
Date: Wed Apr 26 11:05:21 MST 2006 Subject: Website fixed

Got it fixed now. It's amazing how many little details there are to fix on a website like this...

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From: Karen
Date: Wed Apr 26 13:34:24 MST 2006 Subject: Count me in (maybe?)

...hard on the knees, easy on the eyes? (That's usually how it works.)

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From: SPark
Date: Thu Apr 27 14:40:24 MST 2006 Subject: Yes Please

Me, Me - I want to go! And Benji too hopefully.

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From: ryan
Date: Wed May 3 15:59:06 MST 2006 Subject: bucket o' cold water

I did some homework and found some information to share. (Sorry it's a bit long.)

Before we can go, we have to make reservations with the tribe. It costs $30 per person to enter the reservation to hike, plus $12 per night per person. (Plus a $2/group `environmental fee'.)

The Havasupai tribe is at the west end of the Grand Canyon, nearer to Kingman. It will take 7-8 hours by car to reach the parking lot.

From the parking lot, it is an 8 mile hike to the Havasupai village, which has services (cash only). Yep, you can't get to the village by car.

From the village it is another 2 miles to the campground. The lovely waterfalls are near there. The campground has ameneties such as running water, composting toilets, etc. No campfires allowed.

The tribe calls the trail `moderately difficult' and discourages hiking at night. They ask visitors not to unless they are familiar with the trails. My coworker who has been on the trip said the trail has several long stretches of switchbacks that are treacherous and difficult and said he would not try it at night, even under a full moon.

If we go, here is our itinerary: Leave on Thursday, June 8th, after work (6ish). That would get us to the parking lot at 2 or 3am on Friday morning. We would hike the 8 miles to the village and arrive there late morning. Upon arrival at the village, we check in with the camping office and get our permits before proceeding to the campground 2 more miles away. We'd stay overnight Friday night, and possibly Saturday as well. If we left Saturday, we'd get back to Tucson very late Saturday night or early Sunday morning. If we left Sunday, we'd have to hike during the day on Sunday and get back to Tucson late Sunday night.

I have some concerns about this trip... mostly about the degree of exhaustion we are likely to deal with: on Thursday we'd work all day, then get in the car to drive 8 hours, then backpack 8 miles. Then we turn around and leave within 36-48 hours to do it all over again (backwards). If we decide to hike during the day instead, June is going to be brutal hot. Backpacking in 90+ degrees for 10 miles each way doesn't sound fun to me.

So... I suggest planning a Havasupai trip in March or April of next year, hiking in during the day. Or going at night over a longer stretch of time to reduce the exhaustion factor.

Since there seems to be lots of interest in a nighttime backpacking trip in June, perhaps we can choose a destination that is more accessible to us? Any thoughts?

More info on the Havasupai area: http://www.havasupaitribe.com/index.htm

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From: Karen
Date: Wed May 3 16:06:08 MST 2006 Subject: Good points, (Old)Ryan

Would you like a (wet) blanket to go with your bucket of cold water (which apparently, would be desperately craved but not available on a 10-mile hike into Havasupai)....?

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From: andrea
Date: Wed May 3 16:52:42 MST 2006 Subject: what about night time temps?

Ryan-

What about night time temps in March/April of next year...

...and hopefully, in some way, we will have trouble next year going anywhere!

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